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Post by nintndofanboy on Mar 16, 2007 10:42:37 GMT -5
i have a nuber of questoins about god, and i want to doscuss them.
1 (pay attention) Is there a god? What proof do you have?
2. Is the bible sacred? is it godly? Is it true? what proof do you have?
3. i feel hostile to any organized religon, paticullarly fundamental ones. i want to know what does organized religon have to say for itself (i realize SG may not be able to help me here)
4. Death. it scares the living shit out of anyone. humans have long ritualized it, to make the living feel better. i realize noone can tell me about what lies beyond (if anything), but id like to ask what you think.
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Post by RiddleN on Mar 17, 2007 12:09:57 GMT -5
ugh...man. I just wrote this long-ass response to your post, and my computer shut off for some reason right as I was hitting "post reply." I'll type it all again later.
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Post by Guinness on Mar 17, 2007 15:34:43 GMT -5
I'm not even going to start on this.
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Post by rpgfan on Mar 17, 2007 23:49:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't want to get started on this topic either.
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Post by sqrrlsarge on Mar 19, 2007 9:36:39 GMT -5
1. yes, I believe there is a god, the reason being simply this question: how was anything ever alive? I find it hard to believe that some compounds randomly formed together by coincidence creating DNA, everything it can do, cells, cell parts, all the complex functions of these parts, anything even the first single cell organism can do. I believe evolution did occour, but BECAUSE OF GOD. how can we have such a complex system without SOMTHING INTELLEGENT setting it up? it is WAY TO COMPLEX to just have randomly happened. same with the big bang, yeah, it happened, but why? how could anything have been there to make it happen in the first place? when you look right down to how the very first thing happened, theres no way it could be random, so in conclusion, weather the bible is 100% right or not, (that takes care of question 2), there HAS TO BE SOMTHING.
3. death... yes I've thought of this for a while now, what if there isnt an afterlife, I thought, what if there IS NOTHING when you die, no consciousness, nothing? my answer: if thats the case, why care now, because you sure wont care then. you can worry about it, but it wont do you any good. so enjoy life while its there, but keep the afterlife in mind if it is there, because it it is, and you're bad, you'll have a shitty afterlife, too.
so in conclusion, I believe there was intellegent design of some sort, and not to worry about death.
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Post by nintndofanboy on Mar 19, 2007 10:21:04 GMT -5
1. yes, I believe there is a god, the reason being simply this question: how was anything ever alive? I find it hard to believe that some compounds randomly formed together by coincidence creating DNA, everything it can do, cells, cell parts, all the complex functions of these parts, anything even the first single cell organism can do. I believe evolution did occour, but BECAUSE OF GOD. how can we have such a complex system without SOMTHING INTELLEGENT setting it up? it is WAY TO COMPLEX to just have randomly happened. same with the big bang, yeah, it happened, but why? how could anything have been there to make it happen in the first place? when you look right down to how the very first thing happened, theres no way it could be random, so in conclusion, weather the bible is 100% right or not, (that takes care of question 2), there HAS TO BE SOMTHING. 4. death... yes I've thought of this for a while now, what if there isnt an afterlife, I thought, what if there IS NOTHING when you die, no consciousness, nothing? my answer: if thats the case, why care now, because you sure wont care then. you can worry about it, but it wont do you any good. so enjoy life while its there, but keep the afterlife in mind if it is there, because it it is, and you're bad, you'll have a shitty afterlife, too. so in conclusion, I believe there was intellegent design of some sort, and not to worry about death. those are the conclusions i came to also. but i also wonder what is the nature of said intelligence. seems like some machine- like presence, uncaring to the fates it asigns mortals. like some sort of computer. |
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Post by halfdaemon on Mar 19, 2007 17:57:48 GMT -5
I believe there is a higher power...I have no proof, other than it makes sense to me.
the bible is not sacred but does have some good ideas in it. You need to figure out for yourself what makes sense to you.
organized religion says you're a sinner and are going to hell so why the fuck should they answer to you!
I think there is an afterlife, and if not, it's not like I'll know any different so why give a fuck. I care more about dying...when I go, I want it to be fast and in my sleep...not slow, painful, or long.
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Post by RiddleN on Mar 19, 2007 19:34:35 GMT -5
Well, you guys basically summed up what I had typed earlier, so I won't retype it.
All I have to add is this:
Watch the movie "Conversations With God"
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Post by halfdaemon on Mar 20, 2007 18:22:57 GMT -5
my friend told me to read the book...it's on my list.
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Post by RiddleN on Mar 25, 2007 10:54:52 GMT -5
Also, watch "Jesus Camp." I watched it last night. There are parts that scared the shit out of me, like this quote (I'm paraphrasing); "If the Evangelists vote, they have the power to decide every election." And just in case you don't know, ALL Evangelists are avid George Bush fans. The guy that said the aforementioned quote is an Evangelist preacher that meets with George W. every Monday. I'm scared shitless to grow old in this country and have these fundamentalist, brainwashed, Jesus-Freak kids run the country.
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Post by nintndofanboy on Mar 25, 2007 15:53:26 GMT -5
that scares me too. i mentoined before, i hate fundamentalis of every sort.
i have another questoin. is god capable of mistakes?
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Post by halfdaemon on Mar 25, 2007 17:31:56 GMT -5
no...god is infalable in my opinion.
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Post by sqrrlsarge on Mar 26, 2007 9:56:46 GMT -5
well heres more of my opinion on god:
evolution:
god did not make us right away, he made one single celled organism at first, and from there he gradually got new ideas. the first homonids that we found were like beta phases for us, like the early stages to designing a game. now we're the finished product. the theory of evolution IMO is just more proof of intellegent design and that god kept tweeking us until he was satasfied with the final product.
the big bang:
once again, when the univers was all in one "egg" that was probably when god was working on all the elements he wanted and how they reacted etc.
can god make mistakes? no, because god makes the rules, and he defines what IS a mistake.
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Post by nintndofanboy on Mar 27, 2007 19:30:20 GMT -5
well heres more of my opinion on god: evolution: god did not make us right away, he made one single celled organism at first, and from there he gradually got new ideas. the first homonids that we found were like beta phases for us, like the early stages to designing a game. now we're the finished product. the theory of evolution IMO is just more proof of intellegent design and that god kept tweeking us until he was satasfied with the final product. the big bang: once again, when the univers was all in one "egg" that was probably when god was working on all the elements he wanted and how they reacted etc. can god make mistakes? no, because god makes the rules, and he defines what IS a mistake. thats not my questoin. is god capable of mistakes? and how come we keep refering to god as "he"? |
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Post by Binarygray on Mar 27, 2007 20:20:04 GMT -5
well heres more of my opinion on god: evolution: god did not make us right away, he made one single celled organism at first, and from there he gradually got new ideas. the first homonids that we found were like beta phases for us, like the early stages to designing a game. now we're the finished product. the theory of evolution IMO is just more proof of intelligent design and that god kept tweeking us until he was satasfied with the final product. the big bang: once again, when the univers was all in one "egg" that was probably when god was working on all the elements he wanted and how they reacted etc. can god make mistakes? no, because god makes the rules, and he defines what IS a mistake. thats not my questoin. is god capable of mistakes? and how come we keep refering to god as "he"? God can't make mistakes, mistakes are a human problem. Most people refer to him as a he because in the Bible Adam was made in His image, but really that image was probably just the form of a human and not of a sex. Also every one that was responsible for the writings and teachings of the big three were men, so of coarse God had to have a penis. |
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